Why does orange juice taste bad after you brush your teeth?

It's the lesson we've all had to learn the hard way. The pain our mouths feel when we take a treacherous swig of the post-brush poison. This week, Melissa and Jam delve into all of our childhoods to figure out the chemistry of this infamous mixture. Why does it taste so bad? Who's fault is it, the toothpaste or the orange juice? Also while we're at it, why is it called toothpaste? Nevermind, I'm not sure we'll be able to get to the bottom of that part.
Melissa:

Hey, guys. Before we get started on today's show, I wanted to give a little caveat that there may be some missing continuity between this week's episode and last week's episode. The episode that you're about to hear today, we actually recorded before last week's episode on handwashing. So if there's some stuff that we talk about that seems like we should have referred back To last week's episode, that's why we didn't. Also, we recorded this episode in person before we went into the shelter in place order for our area.

Melissa:

So if it seems like we're breaking the rules, we are not. We want everyone to stay home and be safe and follow all orders and social distancing rules that have been issued for your city. Just wanted to let you guys know. Hey. I'm Melissa.

Jam:

I'm Jam.

Melissa:

And I'm a chemist. And I'm not. And welcome to chemistry for your life.

Jam:

The podcast helps to understand the chemistry of your everyday life.

Melissa:

Today, we're going to tackle the age old question.

Jam:

What's that? I thought we have tackled a few age old questions already. Like, sky is blue.

Melissa:

Yeah. Okay. That's fair. We're gonna talk about why orange juice tastes so bad after for you brush your teeth.

Jam:

That is kind of age old. That's, like, probably one of the newest age old questions there is.

Melissa:

Oh, a 100%. Well, do you wanna know the short answer for why?

Jam:

Yes, please.

Melissa:

It's because of chemistry.

Jam:

Oh, okay. We'll see we'll we'll see you guys next week. Thanks so much for listening.

Melissa:

Yep. That's it.

Jam:

Like and subscribe.

Melissa:

So, actually, this topic was another one from a listener from Mason Kaye.

Jam:

Oh, cool.

Melissa:

And I'm actually really Excited. I realized how it related back to something else that we'd already done while I was doing it. I was on the couch with friend of the podcast, Nicole b. She's a friend of ours. Oh, yeah.

Melissa:

And we are both working on stuff, and I said, oh my gosh. And she said, what? And I said, I'm not gonna tell you until the I guess.

Jam:

And you're like, oh my gosh, Becky.

Melissa:

No. I was not like that.

Jam:

Oh, okay. Okay.

Melissa:

I was so excited When I realized this thing, and so Uh-huh. I'll tell you guys about it. So this isn't one that had a lot of the surprising twists and turns that I never am expecting.

Jam:

Twists and turns, I'm excited. It's like a thriller.

Melissa:

It is like a thriller.

Jam:

Like, the whole time, we're not gonna know. Are we gonna make it or not? Is he, they, Him, her. Are they gonna make it? Which I know to the very end.

Melissa:

Well, you're gonna make it, and you're gonna be excited by the end. I know it.

Jam:

Okay. Good.

Melissa:

Okay. Before we can talk about the changes to the taste, we have to talk about the basics of taste normally.

Jam:

Okay.

Melissa:

So taste is a result of the taste receptors on our tongue having molecules that fit into them. And we talked about that with what makes The artificial sweeteners artificial?

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

And how does carbonation have a taste, or does carbonation have a taste?

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

And, Essentially, there are receptors on your tongue that can taste for sweet, bitter, umami, sour, salty. I think those are the ones. Is that right?

Jam:

I don't know. I think so.

Melissa:

Anyway, they're for sure sweet and sour Uh-huh. And bitter.

Jam:

Oh, that's right. Bitter.

Melissa:

So just taste as a general Rule of those, you know, sweet, sour, bitter. We have those receptors on our tongue.

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

And the very basics of what happens with Orange juice in toothpaste is just essentially, orange juice has sweet elements to it, but it also has bitter elements. We can usually taste the sweet, And we don't really taste the bitter. And when you brush your teeth, something in the toothpaste will block the sweet receptors, But then something else happens too.

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

So it's not just blocking sweet receptors. It's doing more than that.

Jam:

Weird.

Melissa:

So we wanna answer the question of What else is going on, and what is blocking the sweet receptors?

Jam:

Yes, please.

Melissa:

Yeah. Okay. So let's do that. So the thing that's responsible, crazily enough, for everything that has to do with taste in your mouth Is the detergent in toothpaste. Okay.

Melissa:

And we talk about detergent from a chemical sense, it's something that Bubbles and froths. And this one is called sodium lauryl sulfate Mhmm. Or also sodium lauryl ether sulfate. You can just call it SLS for short. And it has a long chain of carbons attached to a sulfur group, And its function is to froth and bubble and to move the toothpaste around in your mouth more efficiently.

Jam:

Okay.

Melissa:

Okay? So that ingredient, I was like, interesting. I'm gonna go look it up. And I looked it up Uh-huh. And I found its structure very similar to soap.

Melissa:

And I was like, that's surprising. It looks so much like the soap where it's got this long nonpolar group Yeah. And the polar head on the other.

Jam:

Uh-huh.

Melissa:

And for those of you who don't know what polar and nonpolar are, a quick review is just Almost the elements involved in a molecule, the atoms, will have a tug of war going on. And if one pulls more of the electrons around it, it has Poles like a magnet, plus and minus, positive and negative. Mhmm. And if they're equally shared, it's just neutral. There's no None at all.

Melissa:

Mhmm. And polar things like to interact with other polar things, and nonpolar things like to interact with other nonpolar things. Mhmm. Mhmm.

Jam:

So So

Melissa:

that's a quick review. If you wanna learn more, go listen to our very first episode about soap. So I was looking that up.

Jam:

Uh-huh. And I

Melissa:

was like, wow. That's interesting. That is a very similar structure to soap. That is the moment that I said, oh my gosh. I just realized the reason that soap is bubbly and sort of foamy and frothy is the same Reason that toothpaste is bubbly and foamy and frothy.

Jam:

Got it.

Melissa:

A big light bulb went on over my head.

Jam:

Yeah.

Melissa:

Okay. So that was exciting. Yeah.

Jam:

That is exciting.

Melissa:

And then I kept reading the Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, SLS, Is an ingredient that naturally inhibits your sweet receptors, it just fits into them so it inhibits them. But also there's a coating on your tongue naturally

Jam:

Uh-huh.

Melissa:

Of Phospholipids, which are sort of like fatty molecules. Mhmm. And when you put Essentially soap on top of essentially razor fat. It Breaks apart those phospholipids, and those phospholipids are a barrier to your bitter receptors.

Jam:

Uh-huh.

Melissa:

So not only does Sodium Lauryl Sulfate come in and inhibit your sweet receptors Mhmm. But it takes away the coating on your tongue that blocks Your bitter receptors.

Jam:

That's crazy.

Melissa:

I know.

Jam:

That's so weird It

Melissa:

is so weird.

Jam:

A fatty layer on our tongue. Like I mean, I it kinda makes sense because you definitely feel like your mouth is layered with something. You know? Yep. But I just would not have thought about that, but then the soap coming in soap like thing coming in is like, oh, duh.

Jam:

We know what happens with when that happens. Yeah. Man, that's crazy.

Melissa:

So if you if you're new as a listener, our very first episode is about soap and how the molecules of soap interact with grease and fat molecules. And so you can go back and listen to that episode to find out how the specific function of the sodium lauryl sulfate interacts with the fatty layer on our tongue.

Jam:

So that doesn't quite yet answer the question that most of us have in our minds.

Melissa:

Okay.

Jam:

Why isn't it called teethpaste because I have toothpaste.

Melissa:

Oh, no. I I don't think

Jam:

Can chemistry help us at all there? Or

Melissa:

I hate to say that chemistry doesn't apply there because it does apply to toothpaste. But I think people's choices of what words to call things maybe is out of the realm of my expertise. Mhmm.

Jam:

Okay.

Melissa:

The chemistry is still for your life and and everything, just not in words, maybe.

Jam:

But maybe we could start calling it let's change a few things. Teeth soap. It's a toothpaste. Yeah. So we're changing both, like, the making it plural because you're hopefully brushing more than 1 tooth Mhmm.

Jam:

And then also calling it soap.

Melissa:

Yes. Well, that's fine. So the sweet receptors are inhibited.

Jam:

Okay.

Melissa:

The bitter receptors are basically exposed.

Jam:

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Melissa:

And All of this is because of Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, which is not even required to clean your teeth. It basically just helps it spread and be more foamy. So you can have clean teeth

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

With toothpaste that doesn't have this stuff in it.

Jam:

Oh, that is weird. Mhmm. So if you'd appreciate with, like like, old school baking soda or something Mhmm. Would your tongue be okay with?

Melissa:

With orange juice afterwards, yes. You can get SLS free toothpastes now Uh-huh. If you really want to brush your teeth and then drink orange juice. And then 1 dental website I saw said that you should not brush your teeth oh, wait. What did they say?

Melissa:

You should not drink acid, orange juice, lemonade, whatever, and then brush your teeth. Because acid weakens the enamel, and then you brushing it, like, scrapes it off. When I think about that, it gives me shivers. It's like nails on a chalk Bored feeling to imagine your Yeah. Your toothbrush scraping off.

Melissa:

So don't drink your orange juice and then brush your teeth. Drink your orange juice and wait 30 minutes and then brush your teeth, or get SLS free toothpaste, brush your teeth with that, and then drink as much orange juice as you want.

Jam:

Afterward.

Melissa:

Afterward.

Jam:

Got it. Mhmm. Man, that's interesting. That's just so much weirder than I would have expected. I honestly just thought that it was like, Okay.

Jam:

Toothpaste has a taste, and it somehow affects your mouth and your tongue, what you just tasted. It's pretty strong. I mean, even if you Like a mint Mhmm. And then drink something else or whatever. It tastes weird.

Jam:

Not quite as bad, obviously. It was

Melissa:

Right.

Jam:

There's a very distinct feeling of the

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

Toothpaste and then orange juice.

Melissa:

Right.

Jam:

But I just kinda thought, like, oh, yeah. You're having, like, a minty soapy, like, clean thing.

Melissa:

Yeah.

Jam:

And then a lot of things taste weird, But orange juice is like, woah. Yeah. Very, very weird. And it it so it stands out. But there's a lot of things that I'm like, I don't wanna drink that or eat that because I just Break my teeth, and this is gonna Right.

Jam:

Taste less good.

Melissa:

Yeah.

Jam:

So I always thought it was just a taste thing, like lingering taste of something My toothpaste.

Melissa:

It's so much more.

Jam:

Man, that is so weird.

Melissa:

It's so weird. It's so cool.

Jam:

Is it the time when I should try to explain it back?

Melissa:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's all I have for you. It's just the basics of inhibiting and exposing and acts like a soap.

Jam:

Okay. So toothpaste is like a soap. Mhmm. It has, Man, I already forgot what SLS's. Sodium, Long chain.

Melissa:

No. It doesn't have a long chain. Not of sodiums. Of carbons. What's the l?

Melissa:

Laurel.

Jam:

Laurel. That's why I didn't remember it. So sodium yanny what was it?

Melissa:

The last name? Sodium Laurel sulfate. That

Jam:

was a

Melissa:

deep cut. I forgot about Annie and Laurel.

Jam:

Okay. So it has that in there, and that's really just meant to foam it up when you start brushing. Right? The SOS.

Melissa:

Foam it up and help it spread.

Jam:

Help it spread. I mean, it's yeah. It's obviously not just for decoration. It spreads. That's why I like a little bit of toothpaste can go a long way kinda thing.

Jam:

And it just, yeah, gets everywhere just like soap. And so it gets all foamy and whatnot, but as a weird Byproduct. Mhmm. The is it the s l s as is the same shape?

Melissa:

It's a

Jam:

Same thing.

Melissa:

Structure is what we'd say.

Jam:

Similar structure to wait. Wait. The sweet receptors or to the soap?

Melissa:

Oh, I think And this is something I didn't quite get Uh-huh. Enough information for my satisfaction. I'm not sure if it's shaped similar to some sugar molecules. So because it has these it has some around it, it can trigger those, so your receptors or what, but it just seems to bind to them and not let other things bind to them.

Jam:

Okay. So it's it's the thing that kind of prevents our tongue from tasting sweet things for a little bit.

Melissa:

It does. It does do that.

Jam:

Okay.

Melissa:

The sodium lauryl sulfate is interacting with your sweet receptors in addition to the other stuff.

Jam:

Okay. And then so that, for 1, is already gonna make something sweet that we drink. Say that was all it was.

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

Might just drink orange juice, and it might just have none of the sweetness to it Or a lot less. Mhmm. But then, also so it's already one thing that would be noticeable for most of us.

Melissa:

Right.

Jam:

Also, The fact is it just the fact that it's a soap kinda thing that we brush our teeth with?

Melissa:

Yes.

Jam:

Or also the SLS. That's both.

Melissa:

No. The SLS is the SLS does both things.

Jam:

Okay. It's a it's a Two time offender here.

Melissa:

Exactly. Yes. The this 1 ingredient is responsible for both of

Jam:

the effects. So because it's Amazing. Ace Type of soap like we learned about in Mhmm. The 1st episode. And we have this layer that I did not know about on our tongues Mhmm.

Jam:

That is like a kind of fat like layer Mhmm. That protects us from tasting some of the bitter flavors by by covering those receptors in some way?

Melissa:

Yeah. I'm not sure exactly how that works either, but, essentially, it's a layer of phospholipids, the fat like molecules where they have sort of a fatty

Jam:

Isn't phospholipids what makes up cell membranes?

Melissa:

I am pretty sure it is. How did you remember that?

Jam:

Gotcha.

Melissa:

Where did you pull that from in your brain?

Jam:

From I had to take biology more times than I had to take chemistry. So the phospholipid bilayer

Melissa:

That's exactly right.

Jam:

Yes.

Melissa:

I I just did a quick Google search to confirm, and that is exactly right. Amazing.

Jam:

Phospholipid malaria is one of those things that if you can keep it in your head somewhere and then throw it out when you're trying to seem smart, it's really good. So, like, sometimes someone's, like, talking about, like like, how they cooked something or whatever you meant. Oh, yeah. In the phospholipid bilayer. Yeah.

Jam:

Yeah. Yeah. It just kinda sounds like Something you can throw around. So, we have that coding, which for one reason or another, probably, it benefited us, at some point.

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

Maybe it, like, made things that we needed to eat that don't taste great more edible.

Melissa:

Yeah. Maybe I can do a whole episode looking into what the phospholipid bilayer

Jam:

sweet.

Melissa:

Not bilayer. Dang it. You got me, sweetie. Maybe I can do a whole episode just looking into the Roll of the phospholipid layer

Jam:

Uh-huh. Coding kinda thing on our tongue.

Melissa:

And what it does and and what's going on with that. But I did not look into that today because I just got so excited about

Jam:

the Well, it seems like enough for 1 anyway.

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

So, like, There'll be a lot of reason maybe we have that, and it'd be a totally other different story.

Melissa:

I'll just add it to the list.

Jam:

So we have that. And the soap, Just like grease and stuff like that decimates it Mhmm. Which then leaves us open to the bitter flavors of They're already present in orange juice.

Melissa:

Yes. And

Jam:

our our beta receptors are then, like, don't have any protection

Melissa:

Right.

Jam:

Against it. Mhmm. So imagine those 2 things I'm thinking I'm say I'm thinking about this as I'm saying it. Imagine, like, the, like, Sweetness thing not already happening.

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

Also, like, if we could separate these tooth these 2 effects of toothpaste

Melissa:

Yes.

Jam:

And you just have a phospholipid Coding gone. Then maybe it'd still be sweet Mhmm. The orange juice, but just taste more bitter also. Mhmm. So we're like, okay.

Jam:

Well, this is not as good. But then double whammy, take out get them out of the sweet, allow in way more bitter Yeah. And you got yourself some disgusting Orange juice.

Melissa:

Yeah. Mhmm. It's actually the same orange juice, but it tastes disgusting.

Jam:

Yeah.

Melissa:

Yeah. I think of it on, like, a soundboard. You know how you bring one thing up and bring another thing down at At the same time, I'm just imagining that happening. And, like, you bring down the sweet notes, and you bring up the bitter notes, and then you're just.

Jam:

Gosh. That's crazy.

Melissa:

Isn't it amazing?

Jam:

Yeah. Also go ahead.

Melissa:

I was just gonna say that's the chemistry behind why soap what?

Jam:

Why teeth soap?

Melissa:

That's so So that's the chemistry behind why teeth soap makes your orange juice taste bad.

Jam:

Gosh. That is nuts. What I like about it, I think, That is making it more fun than I expected. I like that one thing has to do with the Toothpaste kinda like preventing us from tasting something Mhmm. About it.

Jam:

The other thing is actually kind of, Like, weirder than I thought because I just didn't think that we would have something that's already kind of keeping us from tasting some bitter flavors.

Melissa:

Yeah.

Jam:

So, like, We're tasting something we're we're missing something from the orange juice, but then now we're also tasting something that we weren't. Right. Clearly, that bitterness is already there

Melissa:

Right?

Jam:

In the orange juice.

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

And so our usual experience of orange juice, we're actually Tasting it less bitter

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

Than it actually is Mhmm. Which is weird. Yeah. It's it's kinda weird how it's, like, just 2 different things changing. Like, that one is already, like, filtered for us, I guess, in a way, most days, the

Melissa:

way that

Jam:

orange juice.

Melissa:

And the listener who suggested this said their guess was, oh, I bet it just inhibits the sweet receptors. And

Jam:

That's a great guess, though. I would not have.

Melissa:

A really it is a really good guess. I was surprised. But then I had already done the research when they guessed that, and I said, Yeah. It's so much more exciting.

Jam:

Yep. You're like, that's part of the story. That's before the plot twist. Mhmm.

Melissa:

People are

Jam:

like, oh.

Melissa:

I know it really is like a plot twist. Yeah. I was not expecting it at all.

Jam:

Seriously, it's kinda like, oh, you think you know who did what and Who's trying to, you know, exploit who for what?

Melissa:

Who's gonna be hiding around the corner and who isn't?

Jam:

Yep. Yep. And it's like, psych. You're wrong. Bruce Willis was actually Luke's father the whole time.

Jam:

What?

Melissa:

I guess that's a response that you expect people to have. Bruce Willis isn't in that show. Jim was just watching me squirm over here in response to that. Okay. That's it then.

Melissa:

I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I just want to hear Bruce Well, it's being Luke's father.

Jam:

Well, after that really reasonable reference, let's move on to, talking about our weeks maybe.

Melissa:

Oh, yeah. Was something happy that happened in your week or something you wanna share about? I can do mine first if you want.

Jam:

Yes, please. Go for it.

Melissa:

This week, I'm not gonna share about something happy. So I don't know if that helps you at all.

Jam:

I don't know if it does either.

Melissa:

But I'm gonna share about the fact that it's getting warm again.

Jam:

True that. Oh, no. I had no. Mine's gonna be. But go ahead.

Melissa:

So I am very unhappy when it's hot. I don't know how to describe it, but when I'm hot, I'm Just instantly angry. You know how some people get hangry for hungry and angry? I get, like, hangry for hot and angry. I have a different Hungry.

Melissa:

And angry. Yeah. So I just get so just My temper is so short when I'm in the sun. There are some instances where it's better than others, but when I'm driving and the sun is on Me and the summer sun is different than the winter sun.

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

And it's like my arms are like, one side of me is really hot because she's sitting in the sun. I just am so Frustrated instantly.

Jam:

Yeah.

Melissa:

So I'm gonna share about how I'm sad that the winter is leaving.

Jam:

Right.

Melissa:

And I'm unhappy that it's getting warmer. And my birthday just passed, so, basically, I have nothing to look forward to again until next fall when it starts getting cold again.

Jam:

Right.

Melissa:

That's what I'm here for.

Jam:

But at least, like, this month and and usually, like, usually March April are pretty Pretty great.

Melissa:

The weather's not terrible.

Jam:

And, like, there's some there can be some really awesome days where it's like, yeah, this is what it would be like for there'd be warmth That is not hot.

Melissa:

I don't want warmth that's not hot. I like it better when it's cool.

Jam:

But well, how about this too? Like, the the fact that plants come back to life. Like, that's always fun.

Melissa:

Else comes back to life is bugs.

Jam:

But not immediately.

Melissa:

There are already it has been warm for 1 week, and there are already those Mayflies, mosquito eaters, whatever you call them

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

All over. I walked through our yard, and they came up with every step in little bursts. It's over. It's all over for me. There are a few things that are nice about spring.

Melissa:

I like rain. I don't like being freezing all the time.

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

But I'm just disappointed. I just every time I go outside and feel it, I know what's coming, and I'm not excited.

Jam:

I do like fall the most, so I totally get it. Mhmm. But I like fall and spring almost equally. So spring to me, I'm like, I love seeing things come out to life. Greenness of, you know, trees and stuff like that bloom.

Jam:

There's, like, a little period of time kinda like how fall is here. Like, Fall is colorful for just, like, a little while here.

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

And then it's, like, drab and dreary again. And then spring is like that too. It's like everything's, like, bursting with color For a little while, and I like that part.

Melissa:

Well, that's lovely. I guess I should be a little bit less of a curmudgeonly old lady and Mhmm. Hating the spring and think of it that way, but it's just hard for me to not know how hot it's gonna get Yeah. In the blink of an eye.

Jam:

That was a good read between the lines that you did there. Okay. I've got my thing. It's kinda related to the warmth. So here's something I like about the seasons changing.

Jam:

I like change, I think, to some degree, especially if you can anticipate it. If it's a curve ball, not always great. Unless it's like, surprise. You just won the lottery. So Mhmm.

Jam:

I I like that it's getting warmer because so at our House, I'm chief coffeeologist. And

Melissa:

Oh, no.

Jam:

And so this time of the year is the time to move Back into some cold coffee options.

Melissa:

I do like cold coffee options. Mhmm.

Jam:

And I don't actually like Cold coffee more than hot coffee? Hot coffee is still my main thing. It's still, like, my first love when it comes to coffee. Mhmm. But I like cold coffee.

Jam:

In recent years, I've, like, Kinda figure out what things I like about cold coffee. And last year, I started really working on my cold brew recipe. So we just, Last week, started doing cold brew again at the house.

Melissa:

Oh, yes.

Jam:

And it's a lot of fun. I've got some ideas, ways I wanna kind of tweak the recipe a little bit, and Other things I wanna explore, and I really, really, really have a lot of fun with that. What's tough though too is kinda like With regular hot coffee, I brew 1 cup at a time. So if I wanna try something new, I try it here in a couple hours when I make the next cup.

Melissa:

Mhmm.

Jam:

With cold brew, You make a lot at once. And so I get about 6 or 7 days of time to plot and and Employ and think in scheme about the next batch and what I'm gonna do differently, if anything. And I get excited about I think just that having that rhythm is kinda fun. Yeah. It's kind of a bummer if, like, a batch goes wrong because then you've got, like, A lot of it.

Jam:

Yeah. And you you wasted, like, effort, and then you had to wait for, like, 16 hours to find out It wasn't great?

Melissa:

Yeah.

Jam:

That does suck. But in general, it's been really exciting. And I like it a lot, and it's fun to to kind of Be like, oh, yeah. Cold brew again. Like Yeah.

Jam:

I haven't had this in a while. So it's really fun. And our cold brew is very good. Think your cold brew recipe is better than mine? Then you're wrong.

Melissa:

Well, I don't know about that, but I will say I have this cool cold brew pitcher that has coffee grounds that you put down in it, And you pour water over it, and you let it steep. And I do the same thing every time. I think it's 3 fourths cup of coffee.

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

I know you're supposed to weigh it if you're fancy. Fill up to the 4 cup line in the pitcher, and it is always very good. I'm always so excited. And I put agave in my Cold and hot coffee, some decave dissolves really well in there. Yeah.

Melissa:

I love it. I'm looking forward to it. That is one thing I'm excited about. And it says my last name on it because my brother sold them for a period.

Jam:

I have one of those still.

Melissa:

You have one of those. Yeah. But you brew now on a much bigger scale.

Jam:

Yeah.

Melissa:

So if anyone's interested in having a Calini coffee brew, you might you might ask ask my brother about it. I think he still has them. It really is my favorite, and I know someone who brews tea in it all the time too. I wish I had 2 Yeah. So I could have it on rotation.

Jam:

That's a really good idea.

Melissa:

Dang. Have 1 in, take the other out. You know? Keep 1 brewing while the other one's going because my one complaint, similar to your complaint, is that it's not big enough.

Jam:

Mhmm.

Melissa:

Just not doesn't make the volume that I want.

Jam:

Yeah. Especially with if you have 4, cold brew drinkers in the house, then it's like it's gonna go too fast.

Melissa:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. You made me excited about one thing for summer is my cold brew. I am gonna bust that back out.

Jam:

Gotcha.

Melissa:

The nice thing about coffee is it doesn't really taste weirder right after you brush your teeth.

Jam:

Right.

Melissa:

So thanks for coming and learning about why orange juice is weird even though coffee's not.

Jam:

Coffee is so much better than orange juice. I agree. Anytime.

Melissa:

Is that what I said? And thanks to all you listeners for also coming to learn about orange juice Do Oh, no. Thanks, listeners, for coming to learn about orange juice and coffee and how How we feel about the upcoming season.

Jam:

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Melissa:

This episode of Chemistry For Your Life was created by Melissa Colini and J. M. Robinson. References for this episode can be found in our show notes or on our website. J.

Melissa:

R. Robinson is our producer, and we'd like to give a special thanks to a Hefner who reviewed this episode.

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